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Pez (#324)
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4-Aug-2025 06:11:42 Quality: 0.

 Quote: Yuri (#3268) wrote:
Highly doubt they will arrest Obama. Not saying he doesn't deserve it, just unlikely that they will do that to him. Will only give the Dems fuel to say that Trump/MAGA/Republicans are fascists because Trump and gang are arresting political opposition. Not many on the Dems side will see it for the crime of election interference that it is.

One side of the tin foil hats says Obama is implicated in these papers released by Tulsi. The other side has been saying for years that Tulsi is a Russian asset.
Kinda convenient timing to release this stuff while everyone is obsessing over the Epstein files.

I've seen analysis from both sides - one saying, "Oh yeah, it's the smoking gun", the other saying, "It doesn't really say what the media is saying it says". I don't really give a !@$# enough to read the papers myself, but if I had to put a bet on it, I'd say it's just another wag-the-dog story. If it actually implicated Obama, Trump's DOJ would be all over it because that would immediately become a much bigger story than who is or is not on some list of Epstein's buddies.

Both sides are corrupted, which is another reason I am not going to spend my time sifting through hundreds of pages myself - whether this implicates Obama or not, it's clear he betrayed the American people, just like viritually every other president that's sat in office since JFK's assassination.

---Pez

[ -- Message edited on: 4-Aug-2025 06:13:42 by Pez (#324) -- ]

master of disaster (#15067)
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4-Aug-2025 13:02:53 Quality: 0.

 Quote: master of disaster (#15067) wrote:
 Quote: Yuri (#3268) wrote:
 Quote: master of disaster (#15067) wrote:

There have been 854 posts in this thread.
Only 834 are visual.

However I see this at the top of the thread:

 Quote: Displaying posts with quality votes -3 or better. Number of posts hidden: 0. Click here to show all posts.

Not sure where you are getting the amount of visual posts at.

#1 I caught him way back doing it irt.
#2 he admits to doing it.
#3 I waited for the political climate to shift from kleptocracy (where truth gets whitewashed and censorship flourished) a time which is now to where what once was gamesmanship for control over others is recognized as the utter corruption that it is.

In the past narcissists and people of low character flourished from top to bottom.
Now what that the very top are being exposed for the most heinous of crimes?

From the top down it became corrupt influencing all.
Now from the top down we will have accountability.

Truth matters!!!!!!!

#4 each page has 10 posts.
At the message board page it shows all the posts that have been posted in the thread.
Pea removed 20posts that hurt is feelings and discredited his political point of view

Nothing but lies.

Not one post is hidden from down votes.
Just you censoring me because your little feelings were hurt because you cannot debate and never did.
It was ALAWAYS you that made it personal and were taking shots at me acting like sisters with others acting all catty.

You lie Pea because liars lie

Truth matters.

You are low in character

master of disaster (#15067)
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4-Aug-2025 13:19:05 Quality: 0.

 Quote: Pez (#324) wrote:
 Quote: Yuri (#3268) wrote:
Highly doubt they will arrest Obama. Not saying he doesn't deserve it, just unlikely that they will do that to him. Will only give the Dems fuel to say that Trump/MAGA/Republicans are fascists because Trump and gang are arresting political opposition. Not many on the Dems side will see it for the crime of election interference that it is.

One side of the tin foil hats says Obama is implicated in these papers released by Tulsi. The other side has been saying for years that Tulsi is a Russian asset.
Kinda convenient timing to release this stuff while everyone is obsessing over the Epstein files.

I've seen analysis from both sides - one saying, "Oh yeah, it's the smoking gun", the other saying, "It doesn't really say what the media is saying it says". I don't really give a !@$# enough to read the papers myself, but if I had to put a bet on it, I'd say it's just another wag-the-dog story. If it actually implicated Obama, Trump's DOJ would be all over it because that would immediately become a much bigger story than who is or is not on some list of Epstein's buddies.

Both sides are corrupted, which is another reason I am not going to spend my time sifting through hundreds of pages myself - whether this implicates Obama or not, it's clear he betrayed the American people, just like viritually every other president that's sat in office since JFK's assassination.

---Pez

[ -- Message edited on: 4-Aug-2025 06:13:42 by Pez (#324) -- ]

A far greater scandal that implies seditious conspiracy and treason is Russiagate.

Obama was at Diddy parties and Epstein island so he is guilty with that sick sheet also.

Obama is a treasonous traitor that was never eligible to be Pres to begin with.

So Tulsi is a Russian asset and you imply Trump is....
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

NO DEBATE SKILLS

[ -- Message edited on: 4-Aug-2025 13:21:38 by master of disaster (#15067) -- ]

master of disaster (#15067)
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4-Aug-2025 13:40:10 Quality: 0.

 Quote: Pez (#324) wrote:
 Quote: Yuri (#3268) wrote:
 Quote: master of disaster (#15067) wrote:

There have been 854 posts in this thread.
Only 834 are visual.

However I see this at the top of the thread:

 Quote: Displaying posts with quality votes -3 or better. Number of posts hidden: 0. Click here to show all posts.

Not sure where you are getting the amount of visual posts at.

I have stopped reading that person's posts, but I read your quote of him by mistake then skimmed his to see why this many-year-old topic was brought back up.

Yeah, I hid his posts a few years ago when he was just personally attacking people left and right. It was just toxic. There was never any cover-up of it - I posted something to the effect of "I've hidden your posts, here's why", and that I was not going to tolerate him personally attacking people (he was making some really heinous accusations against some of the members of this forum - just completely unfounded and harsh character attacks based on nothing but his own delusions).

I imagine he's still saying I was trying to cover up his "truth" or whatever, but I offered to email him or in-game message him his posts so he could clean them up and re-post without the toxicity. Of course, he never took me up on that, because it was never about him getting out whatever insane version of the truth he thought he was espousing - it was about playing the victim and creating more toxicity from the situation.

You can go back and see where I offered to message him his posts if you really care. I wanted to give him the chance to spew his delusional narrative if he wanted to clean up the personal attacks contained within. I imagine it was around pages 30-45 if I had to guess based on how long ago it was.

And yeah, around a year or so ago I decided I was just going to stop reading any of his posts because it's clear he's more than a bit disconnected from reality and his obsession with me was a bit past the point of amusement. Apparently even after not talking to him for over a year he is still obsessively playing victim and demonizing me, as if anyone gives a !@$#.

EDIT - Not sure that this "Displaying posts with quality votes -3 or better. Number of posts hidden: 0" includes posts hidden by mods, I think maybe that's just the posts that have been hidden by the up/down-voting system. Also not sure if it only shows the count for the page or the entire thread.

Regardless, you can tell there are posts hidden because there are 10 posts to a page - right now, according to the main board page, there are 861 replies in this thread, so there should be 87 pages, but you can probably only see 85 or 86 pages because yeah, I hid close to 20 posts that contained personal attacks.

EDIT2 - !@$#, I wasn't going to look around long, but out of curiousity I went to page 30 - FOUR years ago, and he's still pretending this was some gestapo-level censorship narrative -

 Quote: Pez (#324) wrote:
Unless you forgot what you posted, you're always welcome to repost without being rude and disrespectful. Would you like me to message you a copy of your posts so that you can clean them up and repost them?

---Pez

Then the beginning of page 31 -

 Quote: Pez (#324) wrote:
MoD, do you have a country in a server? I'll make one to send you a message.

---Pez

He says no, that he doesn't have a country, so I reply -

 Quote: Pez (#324) wrote:
Well, if you wanna pick server and make a country real quick, I'll send you those messages.

For the record, I believe your heart is in the right place. Apologies for any provoking or disrespect from my end.

---Pez

As much as I used to debate this guy, get under his skin, let him get under mine, I tried my best to show a level of respect. I really do hope he finds peace within himself.

---Pez

[ -- Message edited on: 4-Aug-2025 06:31:52 by Pez (#324) -- ]

[ -- Message edited on: 4-Aug-2025 06:39:07 by Pez (#324) -- ]

Those posts required no cleaning up as you say.

Post them all here right now for all to see how insincere and corrupt you are as u appointed censor.

Not back in the thread.
Post them all here now

Lets see who is lying

master of disaster (#15067)
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4-Aug-2025 13:46:45 Quality: 0.

Considering we are on the Eve of Russia gate coming out I gotta say....

Claiming Tulsi is a Russian asset without providing a single receipt other than a simple minded claim by a lowbrow censor has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever read on this site.
Maybe ever.

Not one receipt

Just groupings of logical fallacies trying to be relevant

[ -- Message edited on: 4-Aug-2025 13:48:14 by master of disaster (#15067) -- ]

master of disaster (#15067)
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4-Aug-2025 14:10:15 Quality: 0.

Prove it Pez.

Bring receipts that Tulsi is a Russian asset without using a logical fallacy.

You are only chewing someone else's cud.

Empty shell.
You got nothing.

Russia gate brings down the house starting at the top.
The left are projecting and trying transference.
This includes Pez

Yuri (#3268)
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4-Aug-2025 19:13:03 Quality: 0.

He didn't say Tulsi is a Russian asset. Just that the opposing party claims she is.

You got to let things drop MoD. Rehashing things from 4 years ago that don't need to be brought back up isn't good or healthy. I tend to lean on your side with things MoD, but it's hard when you do things like that. It also hurts your case when you attack Pez out of the blue like you did recently. Kind of odd. I think your messages would go further if you took a more friendly tone. You seem to always be on the defensive towards so many people on here besides me. You're not always in enemy territory, sometimes you are truly standing in the middle of neutral land.

Pez (#324)
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5-Aug-2025 00:19:02 Quality: +1.

 Quote: Yuri (#3268) wrote:
You seem to always be on the defensive towards so many people on here besides me.

On the defensive? Nah, dude, be real. His tone has always been _aggressively_ offensive. I haven't talked to him in over a year and just from what I skimmed when I saw your post he was calling me names out of the blue? As I haven't addressed him in forever, there's no "defensive" here, he's clearly just trying to agitate me with aggressive middle-school-level bully tactics.

Unfortunately for whatever part of him really wants me to engage, I graduated middle school quite sometime ago and I'm going back to just having my eyes jump over anything that he posts. Some people are just blatantly disrespectful and toxic and will never change. I'm too old to give people like that anymore of my attention.

---Pez

master of disaster (#15067)
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5-Aug-2025 13:09:05 Quality: 0.

 Quote: Pez (#324) wrote:
 Quote: Yuri (#3268) wrote:
You seem to always be on the defensive towards so many people on here besides me.

On the defensive? Nah, dude, be real. His tone has always been _aggressively_ offensive. I haven't talked to him in over a year and just from what I skimmed when I saw your post he was calling me names out of the blue? As I haven't addressed him in forever, there's no "defensive" here, he's clearly just trying to agitate me with aggressive middle-school-level bully tactics.

Unfortunately for whatever part of him really wants me to engage, I graduated middle school quite sometime ago and I'm going back to just having my eyes jump over anything that he posts. Some people are just blatantly disrespectful and toxic and will never change. I'm too old to give people like that anymore of my attention.

---Pez

Absolute total B.S.
You are guilty of some of the worse crimes imaginable for a political debate forum.

You have attempted to whitewash these crimes by waiting it out.
Now you begin taking g political shots like you never perpetrated these crimes and even attempt to gaslight.

You are a moderator that abused their authority and treated it like a special personal advantage.

You never apologized for it and continue to demand me to pay a penance and do extra things and perform tasks you demand from me to satisfy your punishments issued and demand of me.

Fine.

But you relinquish your right to participate in a forum you supposedly moderate.

And lets face it.
You have demonstrably prove you do not have that maturity or self control to participate in a thread you moderate.

Your recent attempts began with a long post taking shots and issuing backhanded insults while littering the place with a string of logical fallacies from outdated and proven hoaxes and lirs.

You are not fit to moderate a thread you are openly disengenuously participating in.

You simply lack moral character to do both

master of disaster (#15067)
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5-Aug-2025 19:40:22 Quality: 0.

And the hubris of you to attempt some moral higher-end where you even talk like you are a moral authority is nothing but gaslighting.

You cannot judge others motives based on who they support.
You are not moral.
Coming from you it is all fallacious and gaslighting.
You cannot be taken seriously.
And your style is to only use logical fallacies to try, TRY, and make a point.
But it is nothing but emotional claims not anything valid or with substance.
You are a horrible debate.
Everything is emotional like how women argue and manipulate.

Stay away from politics, religion, ideals and truth.
You do not meet any qualifications to have a valid view worthy of public discussion.

A qtard will always be better than the retard who uses the word qtard

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